Comments on: Firefox to overtake Internet Explorer by Dec-2007 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:43:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: s i m S a n d w i c h » Blog Archive » Ben Goodger justifies why Firefox 2.0 is still worth the 2.0 without Places http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-336 s i m S a n d w i c h » Blog Archive » Ben Goodger justifies why Firefox 2.0 is still worth the 2.0 without Places Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:42:37 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-336 [...] And if Firefox market share really overtakes IE in 2007 (http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/ - a ridiculous claim), everything will be in place: Firefox will be the new IE. Congrats. [...] […] And if Firefox market share really overtakes IE in 2007 (http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/ - a ridiculous claim), everything will be in place: Firefox will be the new IE. Congrats. […]

]]> By: JJ http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-332 JJ Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:48:07 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-332 Personally this kind of thing interests me, I use both Firefox and IE7 (beta) at work... I find I really miss tab browsing etc whenever I do go back to IE... which I do at home where I have Firefox and IE6.0. There are still a fair numbmer of sites that rely heavily on IE and hence have non functioning areas within Firefox.. But those hoping for something amazing in IE7 will currently be disappointed... evne though it is in beta phase, there are still a lot of bugs to iron out.. things I have noticed more and more as I am using it. Dont get me wrong, there has been significant improvement.. and hey.. everyone loves tab browsing right? ;) but I have noticed sites not functioning correctly in it.... not displaying properly... so I think there is still a little way to go on that one.. Personally this kind of thing interests me, I use both Firefox and IE7 (beta) at work… I find I really miss tab browsing etc whenever I do go back to IE… which I do at home where I have Firefox and IE6.0.
There are still a fair numbmer of sites that rely heavily on IE and hence have non functioning areas within Firefox..

But those hoping for something amazing in IE7 will currently be disappointed… evne though it is in beta phase, there are still a lot of bugs to iron out.. things I have noticed more and more as I am using it.

Dont get me wrong, there has been significant improvement.. and hey.. everyone loves tab browsing right? ;) but I have noticed sites not functioning correctly in it…. not displaying properly… so I think there is still a little way to go on that one..

]]> By: MT http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-326 MT Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:33:10 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-326 Nice propaganda, now get the facts: http://www.FirefoxMyths.com Statistics are consistently used to mislead people about Firefox's popularity look at the market share Myths and this link: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39204643,00.htm Nice propaganda, now get the facts:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

Statistics are consistently used to mislead people about Firefox’s popularity look at the market share Myths and this link:

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39204643,00.htm

]]> By: Fr. Larry http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-324 Fr. Larry Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:58:09 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-324 I aced the Master's exam in Statistics at UIC in 1974. I remember reading <em>How to Lie with Statistics</em> and being amused. It is well known that anyone with enough technical skill can fool lots of people who have none, and one of these ways is with bogus statistics. In other words it is possible to lie and use statistics in the process. It is not, however, possible to <em>prove</em> anything using statistics. Standards of proof, shall we say, exceed the levels typically required to exceed a threshold of credibility. Now to the specific case at hand. What you have is a moderately large data set (by polling standards), but in a very narrow niche. While there may be no reason to suspect that visitors of the Humor Archives are exceptionally literate in technical matters, the very fact that they are using a somewhat elaborate interface does suggest their average intelligence quotient is significantly above 100. This fact alone already skews your results. How that extrapolates to the general population of Internet users is anyone's guess at this point. Of course, your prediction of Firefox dominance by Dec 2007 may well be conservative for the particular web site. The introduction of IE7 and Firefox 2 will, of course, change the numbers significantly, but I doubt whether anyone can predict how at this point. I aced the Master’s exam in Statistics at UIC in 1974. I remember reading How to Lie with Statistics and being amused. It is well known that anyone with enough technical skill can fool lots of people who have none, and one of these ways is with bogus statistics. In other words it is possible to lie and use statistics in the process. It is not, however, possible to prove anything using statistics. Standards of proof, shall we say, exceed the levels typically required to exceed a threshold of credibility.

Now to the specific case at hand. What you have is a moderately large data set (by polling standards), but in a very narrow niche. While there may be no reason to suspect that visitors of the Humor Archives are exceptionally literate in technical matters, the very fact that they are using a somewhat elaborate interface does suggest their average intelligence quotient is significantly above 100. This fact alone already skews your results.

How that extrapolates to the general population of Internet users is anyone’s guess at this point. Of course, your prediction of Firefox dominance by Dec 2007 may well be conservative for the particular web site. The introduction of IE7 and Firefox 2 will, of course, change the numbers significantly, but I doubt whether anyone can predict how at this point.

]]> By: Jezza http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-323 Jezza Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:51:24 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-323 I've been a big fan of Firefox since 0.7. As of this week, I've decided to move back to IE. Sure, I'll miss the tabbed browsing, but Flash animation (which is on most of the sites I visit) is killing Firefox, leading to 100% CPU utilization, and the memory leak thing (that's a 'feature' not a bug) is slowing me right down. I'm over it. I’ve been a big fan of Firefox since 0.7. As of this week, I’ve decided to move back to IE. Sure, I’ll miss the tabbed browsing, but Flash animation (which is on most of the sites I visit) is killing Firefox, leading to 100% CPU utilization, and the memory leak thing (that’s a ‘feature’ not a bug) is slowing me right down. I’m over it.

]]> By: Wade http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-318 Wade Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:11:16 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-318 Nice comments, losers! The guy said it's not scientific, so don't analyze it so much. Overall a nice post. And for the idiot who commented... "firefox will overtake IE” propaganda is starting to make people sick. who cares ?" A lot of people care, you retard. There are a lot of BIG web sites that still don't support Firefox, and they are starting to pay the price. The "dominant browser question" has profound implications on content of the entire internet, choice of operating system, and is a big deal for anyone writing web-based software. P.S. - Opera is for pussies! Nice comments, losers! The guy said it’s not scientific, so don’t analyze it so much. Overall a nice post.

And for the idiot who commented…

“firefox will overtake IE” propaganda is starting to make people sick. who cares ?”

A lot of people care, you retard. There are a lot of BIG web sites that still don’t support Firefox, and they are starting to pay the price. The “dominant browser question” has profound implications on content of the entire internet, choice of operating system, and is a big deal for anyone writing web-based software.

P.S. - Opera is for pussies!

]]> By: Matt http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-316 Matt Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:08:46 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-316 It's funny to see how bent out of shape the IE zealots get over the impending Firefox take over. Why are they resisting? It’s funny to see how bent out of shape the IE zealots get over the impending Firefox take over. Why are they resisting?

]]> By: ravi http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-315 ravi Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:59:18 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-315 i definitiely feel IE7 is copying all good features of firefox. but there are some tradeoffs. for one thing IE is better then other thing firefox. its always user preference i definitiely feel IE7 is copying all good features of firefox. but there are some tradeoffs. for one thing IE is better then other thing firefox. its always user preference

]]> By: Arun http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-314 Arun Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:54:48 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-314 We can't go by the statistics of one sight. For eg: I have 2 websites, one for my family pictures (http://www.arun-prabha.com) and other for technology (http://tech.arun-prabha.com). The number users using IE is more at my family site whereas Firefox users are more at my tech site. That shows that Firefox is being used more by tech savvy people rather than mom, pop kind of users. Firefox might have to struggle little more to ride into the non-tech community since IE7 release is also nearing. I don't think it'll surpass IE in near future, but it might get to 25% market share by middle/end of next year. We can’t go by the statistics of one sight. For eg: I have 2 websites, one for my family pictures (http://www.arun-prabha.com) and other for technology (http://tech.arun-prabha.com). The number users using IE is more at my family site whereas Firefox users are more at my tech site. That shows that Firefox is being used more by tech savvy people rather than mom, pop kind of users. Firefox might have to struggle little more to ride into the non-tech community since IE7 release is also nearing. I don’t think it’ll surpass IE in near future, but it might get to 25% market share by middle/end of next year.

]]> By: Tim http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-313 Tim Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:14:30 +0000 http://hedges.net/archives/2006/04/24/firefox-to-overtake-internet-explorer-by-dec-2007/#comment-313 Another Blog posting speculation as news. This is why I laugh at blogs as a news source. Author is so proud of himself, that he forgets this article should be titled as a commentary or analysis. Another Blog posting speculation as news. This is why I laugh at blogs as a news source. Author is so proud of himself, that he forgets this article should be titled as a commentary or analysis.

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